{"id":8121,"date":"2024-07-10T18:10:51","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T22:10:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/parmaks.com\/Resources\/derek-sivers-and-kevin-kelly-753\/"},"modified":"2024-07-10T18:10:51","modified_gmt":"2024-07-10T22:10:51","slug":"derek-sivers-and-kevin-kelly-753","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/parmaks.com\/Resources\/derek-sivers-and-kevin-kelly-753\/","title":{"rendered":"Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly (#753)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/hop.clickbank.net\/?affiliate=infohatch&amp;vendor=J1R2C\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10614 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/parmaks.com\/Resources\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/profit-gen400px.png\" alt=\"Profit Gen\" width=\"400\" height=\"217\" srcset=\"http:\/\/parmaks.com\/Resources\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/profit-gen400px.png 400w, http:\/\/parmaks.com\/Resources\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/profit-gen400px-300x163.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?resize=600%2C338&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-82814\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Derek-and-Kevin.jpg?w=1800&amp;ssl=1 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 90vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/figure>\n<p>This episode is a two-for-one, and that\u2019s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I\u2019ve curated some of the best of the best\u2014some of my favorites\u2014from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/2015\/12\/14\/derek-sivers-on-developing-confidence-finding-happiness-and-saying-no-to-millions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Derek Sivers on Developing Confidence, Finding Happiness, and Saying No to Millions<\/strong><\/a>\u201d\u00a0and\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/2014\/08\/29\/kevin-kelly\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Interview of Kevin Kelly, Co-Founder of WIRED, Polymath, Most Interesting Man In The World?<\/strong><\/a><strong>\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Please enjoy!<\/p>\n<p>Bios of guests may be found at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/combo\/\">tim.blog\/combo<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em><strong><em>Listen to the episode on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/753-derek-sivers-and-kevin-kelly\/id863897795?i=1000661787136\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a 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rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Transcript<\/a>\u00a0for the full Derek Sivers episode |\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/2014\/08\/29\/kevin-kelly\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Transcript<\/a>\u00a0for the full Kevin Kelly episode |\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/2018\/09\/20\/all-transcripts-from-the-tim-ferriss-show\/\">Transcripts<\/a>\u00a0for all episodes<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-tim-podcast-link-main podcast-block wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><a class=\"podcast-block__link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/753-derek-sivers-and-kevin-kelly\/id863897795?i=1000661787136\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/timferriss\/inc\/blocks\/podcast-link\/images\/apple-podcast.png?w=600&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"podcast-block__link-icon\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><span class=\"podcast-block__link-text-top\">Listen on<\/span><span 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decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/timferriss\/inc\/blocks\/podcast-link\/images\/overcast.svg\" class=\"podcast-block__link-icon\"\/><span class=\"podcast-block__link-text-top\">Listen on<\/span><span class=\"podcast-block__link-text\">Overcast<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"podcast-player\">\n<div class=\"podcast-player-inner-wrap\">\n<p>#753: Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly<\/p>\n<p><noscript><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.art19.com\/shows\/58dacbdc-646e-4585-9914-19c3de11d1ba\/episodes\/24036458-1ca7-4e18-ba65-b3ea254e84fc\/embed?type=micro\" style=\"width: 100%; height: 30px; border: 0 none;\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/noscript><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly \u2014 The Tim Ferriss Show\" 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They\u2019ll even pick it up from you if you don\u2019t love it.\u00a0<strong>And now, Helix is offering 25\u201330% off all mattress orders plus two free pillows at\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/helixsleep.com\/tim\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">HelixSleep.com\/Tim<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<p><strong>This episode is brought to you by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/drinkag1.com\/tim\" rel=\"noopener\">AG1<\/a>!<\/strong>\u00a0I get asked all the time, \u201cIf you could use only one supplement, what would it be?\u201d My answer is usually\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/drinkag1.com\/tim\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">AG1<\/a>, my all-in-one nutritional insurance. I recommended it in\u00a0<em>The 4-Hour Body<\/em>\u00a0in 2010 and did not get paid to do so. I do my best with nutrient-dense meals, of course, but\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/drinkag1.com\/tim\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">AG1<\/a>\u00a0further covers my bases with vitamins, minerals, and whole-food-sourced micronutrients that support gut health and the immune system.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Right now,\u00a0you\u2019ll get a 1-year supply of Vitamin D free with your first subscription purchase<\/strong>\u2014a vital nutrient for a strong immune system and strong bones.\u00a0<strong>Visit\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/drinkag1.com\/tim\" rel=\"noopener\">DrinkAG1.com\/Tim<\/a>\u00a0to claim this special offer today and receive your 1-year supply of Vitamin D (and 5 free AG1 travel packs) with your first subscription purchase!\u00a0<\/strong>That\u2019s up to a one-year supply of Vitamin D as added value when you try their delicious and comprehensive daily, foundational nutrition supplement that supports whole-body health. <\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<p><strong>This episode is brought to you by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/wealthfront.com\/Tim\" rel=\"noopener\">Wealthfront<\/a>!<\/strong> Wealthfront is an app that helps you manage and invest your money. Right now, <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/wealthfront.com\/Tim\" rel=\"noopener\">you can earn 5.00%<\/a><\/strong> APY\u2014that\u2019s the Annual Percentage Yield\u2014with the Wealthfront Cash Account through its network of partner banks. That\u2019s more than <strong>ten times more interest than a savings account at a bank<\/strong>, according to FDIC.gov. It takes just a few minutes to sign up, and then you\u2019ll immediately start earning 5.00% APY interest on your short term cash until you\u2019re ready to invest. <\/p>\n<p><strong>And when you open an account today, you can <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/wealthfront.com\/Tim\" rel=\"noopener\">get an extra fifty-dollar bonus<\/a> with a deposit of five hundred dollars or more. Terms apply. Visit\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/wealthfront.com\/Tim\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wealthfront.com\/Tim<\/a>\u00a0to get started.<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<p><strong>What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know <a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/2024\/07\/10\/derek-sivers-and-kevin-kelly\/#respond\">in the comments<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-82812\"\/><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SHOW NOTES<\/h3>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>[05:47] Notes about this supercombo format.<\/li>\n<li>[06:50] <strong>Enter Derek Sivers.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>[07:20] From pig show busker to circus ringleader.<\/li>\n<li>[10:42] Derek\u2019s framework for developing confidence.<\/li>\n<li>[13:05] \u201cThe standard pace is for chumps.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>[18:51] Relaxing for the same result.<\/li>\n<li>[24:01] The origins of \u201cHELL YEAH! or no.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>[26:25] \u201cBusy\u201d implies a life out of control.<\/li>\n<li>[28:03] What inspired the automation of CD Baby?<\/li>\n<li>[33:22] Derek\u2019s billboard.<\/li>\n<li>[34:32] Good advice at any age: \u201cDon\u2019t be a donkey.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>[40:24] <strong>Enter Kevin Kelly.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>[41:02] Kevin\u2019s biggest regret.<\/li>\n<li>[43:13] Finding contentment in minimalism and \u201cvoluntary simplicity\u201d without starving to death.<\/li>\n<li>[50:33] Kevin\u2019s epiphany when he embraced writing as a late bloomer.<\/li>\n<li>[56:40] Why Kevin promised himself he would never resort to teaching English while traveling abroad.<\/li>\n<li>[59:07] Finding purpose through resilience and the creator\u2019s dilemma.<\/li>\n<li>[1:06:50] Why the appeal of being a billionaire is overrated.<\/li>\n<li>[1:11:05] Middle-aged optimization.<\/li>\n<li>[1:15:28] Realizations following a \u201csix months until death\u201d challenge.<\/li>\n<li>[1:20:08] Kevin\u2019s Kickstarter-funded project linking angels and robots.<\/li>\n<li>[1:22:41] Why a self-proclaimed ex-hippie waited until his 50th birthday to try LSD for the first time.<\/li>\n<li>[1:28:43] Why a population implosion is probable in the next 100 years.<\/li>\n<li>[1:36:05] The greatest gift you can give to your child.<\/li>\n<li>[1:38:21] The criteria for Amish technology assimilation.<\/li>\n<li>[1:45:03] What technology-free sabbaticals can do for you.<\/li>\n<li>[1:48:53] Long Now Foundation\u2019s vision of a better civilization.<\/li>\n<li>[1:53:33] The graphic novel teaching young people how to become indispensable.<\/li>\n<li>[1:54:52] An antidote to misguided \u201cfollow your passion\u201d advice.<\/li>\n<li>[1:56:44] Kevin\u2019s favorite fiction book.<\/li>\n<li>[1:59:15] The resource Kevin compiled for documentary lovers.<\/li>\n<li>[2:02:47] A name Kevin considers synonymous with \u201csuccess\u201d (and why success is overrated).<\/li>\n<li>[2:05:46] What Kevin would change about himself.<\/li>\n<li>[2:07:59] Daily rituals.<\/li>\n<li>[2:10:44] How Kevin accumulated enough books to fill a two-story library.<\/li>\n<li>[2:15:19] How Adam Savage from <em>MythBusters<\/em> transformed Kevin\u2019s method of organization.<\/li>\n<li>[2:17:14] The project everyone should undertake at least once in life.<\/li>\n<li>[2:19:30] Does discovery equal invention?<\/li>\n<li>[2:20:12] Kevin\u2019s advice to his younger self.<\/li>\n<li>[2:23:16] Parting thoughts.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Connect with\u00a0Derek Sivers:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sive.rs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Website<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/sive.rs\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Podcast<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sivers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Twitter<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/dereksivers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Connect with\u00a0Kevin Kelly:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/kk.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Website<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kevin2kelly\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Twitter<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/kevin2kelly\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Instagram<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@KevinKelly\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Excellent-Advice-Living-Wisdom-Earlier\/dp\/0593654528\/ ?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I Wish I\u2019d Known Earlier by Kevin Kelly<\/strong>\u00a0| Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Cool-Tools-Possibilities-Kevin-Kelly-ebook\/dp\/B07BTPWPV3\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cool Tools: A Catalog of Possibilities by Kevin Kelly | Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Inevitable-Understanding-Technological-Forces-Future\/dp\/0143110373\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future by Kevin Kelly | Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/What-Technology-Wants-Kevin-Kelly\/dp\/0143120174\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly | Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Vanishing-Asia-Three-West-Central\/dp\/1940689066\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Vanishing Asia: Three Volume Set: West, Central, and East by Kevin Kelly | Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Latest in Technology, Science, Culture, and Business | Wired<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/whole-earth-catalog-now-online-internet-archive\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Whole of the \u2018Whole Earth Catalog\u2019 Is Now Online | Wired<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/simplicitycollective.com\/start-here\/what-is-voluntary-simplicity-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">What is Voluntary Simplicity? | The Simplicity Collective<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/dailystoic.com\/what-is-stoicism-a-definition-3-stoic-exercises-to-get-you-started\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">What Is Stoicism? A Definition and Nine Stoic Exercises to Get You Started | Daily Stoic<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/tim.blog\/stoic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Stoicism Resources and Recommendations | Tim Ferriss<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/kk.org\/thetechnium\/1000-true-fans\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">1,000 True Fans by Kevin Kelly | The Technium<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.well.com\/about-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">A Cherished Destination for Conversation and Discussion | The WELL<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Cats-Cradle-Novel-Kurt-Vonnegut\/dp\/038533348X\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cat\u2019s Cradle: A Novel by Kurt Vonnegut | Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tefl.org\/teach-english-abroad\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Teach English Abroad: Top 54 Countries | TEFL.Org<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Circle-Innovation-Cant-Shrink-Greatness\/dp\/0375401571\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Circle of Innovation: You Can\u2019t Shrink Your Way to Greatness by Tom Peters | Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Search-Excellence-Americas-Best-Run-Companies\/dp\/0060548789\/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">In Search of Excellence: Lessons from America\u2019s Best-Run Companies by Tom Peters and Robert H. 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