The Random Show — Tim and Kevin Talk Retreats, Mortality, AI Predictions, Supplements, Rock Climbing at (Almost) 50, and Not Waiting for “Someday” (#875)

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In this edition of The Random Show, Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose reunite over tequila to talk Zen retreats, learning to rock climb at (almost) 50, mortality and grief, why you should stop saying “one day,” AI predictions, and much more.

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The Random Show — Tim and Kevin Talk Retreats, Mortality, AI Predictions, Supplements, Rock Climbing at (Almost) 50, and Not Waiting for Someday


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Connect with Kevin Rose:

Website | Digg | Diggnation Podcast | Instagram | X | Threads | Bluesky

Connect with Tim Ferriss:

Website | 5-Bullet Friday | Saisei Foundation | Instagram | X

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Timestamps

  • [00:00:00] Start.
  • [00:00:24] A tequila toast, and getting “taxed” by alcohol as you age.
  • [00:02:18] Toaster at 15: a late-night health scare.
  • [00:06:01] Losing Om Malik, and finding out on retreat.
  • [00:08:03] Matt Mullenweg, Antarctica, and gratitude.
  • [00:09:34] Coming to terms with our limited time on Earth.
  • [00:14:37] Five days of silence and the koan “Mu.”
  • [00:15:20] Kevin’s micro-insight and a plug for The Way.
  • [00:27:25] Rock climbing after 40, and a Yosemite goal.
  • [00:29:18] Michael Eckert and finger-strength training.
  • [00:30:40] The Nug, Abrahangs, and a travel training kit.
  • [00:32:57] Free Solo and climbing with a fear of heights.
  • [00:37:53] The Blade Itself, and a friend lost in a plane crash.
  • [00:39:19] A2 protein and Pioneer Pastures.
  • [00:40:34] Maui Nui venison and the nitrate question.
  • [00:43:48] deltaG ketones: what they are and the catch.
  • [00:45:42] Ketones, dementia, and verbal fluidity.
  • [00:46:29] Pre-grieving a parent’s decline.
  • [00:48:33] Training not to die: the one bike I can stand and the Norwegian 4×4.
  • [00:51:10] Something beats nothing: saunas, treadmills, and Duolingo chess.
  • [00:53:04] The MM120 anxiety study — and a small-world surprise.
  • [00:56:17] Psilocybin, LSD, and dementia case reports.
  • [01:01:28] Neutonic toothpicks and Kevin’s AI-powered home.
  • [01:06:12] Spooky AI personalization and investment autopsies.
  • [01:17:38] Values cards, contractual bonds, and dark information.
  • [01:23:25] 360 reviews and child-rearing.
  • [01:24:54] Wispr Flow, Shokz, and my recording rig.
  • [01:29:32] The “big three” and where AI goes next.
  • [01:44:40] Let your winners run; buy the company, not the product.
  • [01:51:08] Digg’s relaunch, 5-Bullet Friday, and parting thoughts.

Want to hear the last time Kevin and I got together for a Random Show? Listen to our Couch Edition, in which Kevin and I discussed our Zen retreat with Henry Shukman, DIY vagus nerve stimulation, my Bertolotti’s Syndrome back-pain breakthrough, balance boards and slacklining, Emil Abrahamsson’s tendon-strengthening protocol, photobiomodulation and urolithin A for mitochondria, blood-flow-restriction training, the Norwegian 4×4 protocol, vintage Japanese finds on Etsy, Kevin’s hummingbird-feeder obsession, and much more.


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